Saturday, March 7, 2015

Final Discussion: A Match Made in … Heaven?

What do you think of St. John?  How would he fair as a companion for Jane?

10 comments:

  1. I feel like St. John would not fare well as a companion for Jane. While St. John is a more religious and supposedly “equal” match for Jane in the terms of money and social class, he is more controlling and tries to hold Jane to his power. Where Rochester was emotional, acted irrationally sometimes, and had a large gap in social class from Jane, I feel like mentally, Jane and Rochester were more equals. “No woman was ever nearer to her mate than I am: ever more absolutely bone of his bone, and flesh of his flesh.” Jane feels more equal after her visit with the Rivers to Rochester, and I think that part of that is because of how she felt with St. John. “As his wife—at his side always, and always restrained, and always checked—forced to keep the fire of my nature continually low, to compel it to burn inwardly and never utter a cry, though the imprisoned flame consumed vital after vital—this would be unendurable.” Jane feels restrained and controlled by St. John, which is even extended to realizing his irrationality when St. John tells Jane that she would be denying the Christian faith by not marrying him. In my opinion, Rochester was the better match for Jane, she just needed to follow her instincts and find herself before she could see herself happy with him… Bertha dying, Rochester physically becoming below and needing assistance from Jane, along with Jane’s inheritance definitely probably helped though. :)

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  2. I do not think that St. John would suit as a good companion for Jane. While they do have several things in common, such as their strong affiliation with the Christian religion and sociall classes, he is not willing to supply the most important part of a relationship- love. This can be seen through his marriage proposal to her as he only wants her to be his wife to accompany him on his mission trip to India. He explains his intentions by saying, "You shall be mine: I claim you not for my pleasure, but for my sovereign's service." It is apparent that St. John does not truly love Jane, he only wants her as a missionary's wife, and once she realizes this it is automatically an issue. Jane believes that if she is to be married to St. John he must truly love her, as a husband should his wife, though he does not. "It is- he asks me to be his wife, and has no more of a husbands heart for me than that frowning giant of a rock...He prizes me as a soldier would a good weapon; that is all." Jane desires to be loved sincerely, and she knows that St. John is not willing to do so. He is also too demanding of her, controlling of her actions, and only compliments her when she does something to fulfill God's word. St. John isn't even attracted to Jane, which even more signifies that his love for her is non-existent. If this is the case, then the two are not at all compatible, which proves that St. John would not suffice as a good partner for Jane.

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  3. I think of St. John as a selfish person. He doesn't care much of anyone's feelings but wants to do what he wants all the time. I think St. John would not fair well as a good companion for Jane. Jane and St. John are different people. St. John is too controlling and always wants what he wants and is too forceful. He doesn't care much for Jane's opinion like Rochester did. Rochester showed more love and value to Jane. Also I feel like Jane is a rebound girl for St. John. He loved Rosamond but found out she was engaged and quickly had this rebound feeling for Jane. It all happened too quick there for I do not feel like it would be real for either of them. Jane does realize their is no love here and she points it out many times. He just wants her to be with him only for his godly duties. Plus a big side of this story is that they are cousins. I think it would be weird to have any kind of a relationship with any cousins so therefore this relationship is a no no. With him being a religious person I don't know why he did not see this as a wrong type of relationship knowing Jane is his cousin.

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  5. St. John in my opinion is not a suitable companion for Jane because like Ilya said he is selfish in nature. St. John himself seems to be a character that is opposite of Rochester, Rochester is believed to be a more intelligent and thoughtful person in some ways willing to do something for Jane and what he wanted was best even if he acted irrationally at times. St. John is the opposite and because of the most important point that he just wanted to use her to have "company". for the missionary trip was something that is ill-advised and not to be founded as love. St.John wanted only his wishes and accomplishments in life hoping to find something in Jane to have a companion and not a lover he wants control her actions and is indeed forceful in nature.. He only praises her when she follows Gods words and if the novel holds true and the love is non-existent then they are not compatible and he is not suitable to be her Husband and Jane his wife.

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  7. I don't believe that St. John is a suitable companion for Jane. He never really treats her with great kindness when they first meet, but once he finds out that Rosamond already has a suitor, and that Jane gives him the money that she inherited from their uncle, he is suddenly so desperate to have her as his. I believe that it is an effect of his controlling nature. Even at the end, when Jane writes to him about her new life with Rochester, he refuses to acknowledge her marriage, which to me seems absurd. I also think that it is strange that they are cousins, although I understand that people used to marry their cousins many years ago. Overall, I believe that Jane was just destined to be with Rochester. He brought out the good in her, challenged her, and loved her truly.

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  8. St. John does not make a good companion for Jane. Jane is much more of a free spirit and out spoken as we see with Rochester. In these chapters we see St. John repress Janes nature and it unsettles her. I believe that that is why she ultimatelt returned to Rochester. St. John and Jane would not have lasted as long as Jane and Rochester.

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  9. St.John is not a good companion for Jane. Ever since Jane became more empowered at Lowood, she had become very independent. Even with the situation with Rochester because he told her and issue and she could've very easily stayed with him. However she didn't care about his looks or money, she felt she could fend for herself so she left. This is why her and St.John wouldn't work, Jane is very independent and throughout these chapters St.John is very controlling to Jane and acts cold towards her without being directly mean.

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  10. I do not believe that St. John is a suitable companion for Jane, firstly due to his cold nature, Jane has grown up all her life with people treating her coldly, the prime example being her aunt Reed, and then the nature of the orphanage school which she was sentenced to by her aunt. What Jane needs in life is true companionship and love, someone who will treat her warmly, and although Jane and St. John do have a few things in common, such as their affiliation with the Christian faith as well as social class, those are so insignificant in comparison to what Jane truly desires. St. John's intentions on marrying Jane are not due to love, they are due to her making a great companion in the field of ministry for him, and although Jane sees the good in that, she also sees a life of misery, she cannot be with a man who does not truly love her and has no intention is showing her that he does. As Jane processes the type of companion St. John would make, it is evident that he is not the man for her, and ultimately she is later aware that Rochester is.

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